tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5776375569387669394.post6591372993421745364..comments2023-10-19T10:43:38.825-04:00Comments on Free Advice: Why Are We So Sure CRU Was Hacked?Bob Murphyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04001108408649311528noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5776375569387669394.post-57902606483995878452009-12-08T14:37:23.173-05:002009-12-08T14:37:23.173-05:00The most recent emails are from November, AFTER Pa...The most recent emails are from November, AFTER Paul Hudson is alleged to have received the "chain" of emails. <br /><br />http://www.eastangliaemails.com/emails.php?eid=1073&filename=1258053464.txt<br /><br />Therefore he is likely referring only to the email conversation that was forwarded to him by one of the participants.<br /><br />The email chain is here. it is also duplicated in several other emails, so it's impossible to say to which version he was referring.<br /><br />http://www.eastangliaemails.com/emails.php?eid=1048&filename=1255352257.txt<br /><br />The email is dated Oct.12, the same date that Paul Hudson alleges he recieved the forwarded email chain.Rocketmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10430653136902935034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5776375569387669394.post-28394559399426609712009-12-08T12:00:08.419-05:002009-12-08T12:00:08.419-05:00Joe Hopkins,
What do you think is wrong? There is...Joe Hopkins,<br /><br />What do you think is wrong? There is some ambiguity over whether the BBC guy was sent the whole she-bang, versus just that subset of the CRU package having to do with him. The UK Telegraph story makes it sound as if he got the whole she-bang, but you're right, his own quotation makes it unclear.<br /><br />Is that what you mean?Bob Murphyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04001108408649311528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5776375569387669394.post-20361854712229472972009-12-08T06:32:36.751-05:002009-12-08T06:32:36.751-05:00http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/FOIA_Leaked/
The ...http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/FOIA_Leaked/<br /><br />The above makes the argument for why a leak is more likely than a hack in some detail. Haven't read it for myself yet but the guy who mailed it me found it persuasive.teqzillahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10644136551384385125noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5776375569387669394.post-37702592904420528922009-12-08T05:22:40.322-05:002009-12-08T05:22:40.322-05:00UK Libertarian Sean Gabb thinks it's the Russi...UK Libertarian Sean Gabb thinks it's the Russians. And now, after a short delay, so does the Daily Mail (not that that proves anything).<br />Read more at <a href="http://libertarianalliance.wordpress.com/2009/12/06/daily-mail-backs-gabb-russian-climategate-hack-hunch-official/" rel="nofollow">http://libertarianalliance.wordpress.com/2009/12/06/daily-mail-backs-gabb-russian-climategate-hack-hunch-official/</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5776375569387669394.post-40013458428170509002009-12-08T02:44:15.827-05:002009-12-08T02:44:15.827-05:00Inside Job seems very likely but not based on the ...Inside Job seems very likely but not based on the Paul Hudson statement. Joe Hopkins has it exactly right. <br /><br />WUWT has the best analysis of this, based on the email headers and other stuff that only an IT person would be able to analyze properly.<br />http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/12/07/comprhensive-network-analysis-shows-climategate-likely-to-be-a-leak/Rocketmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10430653136902935034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5776375569387669394.post-83557752925345620092009-12-07T20:21:04.613-05:002009-12-07T20:21:04.613-05:00While I agree that the hacker theory is the less-l...While I agree that the hacker theory is the less-likely scenario (although not particularly unlikely), I'm not sure you are right about Paul Hudson receiving the emails in advance. He meerly says that <i>his</i> correspondance was authentic and he was not referring to the thousands of other emails.<br /><br />You may want to correct this.<br /><br />Thanks,<br /><br />JoeJoe Hopkinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00680429440916765686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5776375569387669394.post-83682548500667634642009-12-07T12:09:14.875-05:002009-12-07T12:09:14.875-05:00Also in favor of the inside-job hypothesis are:
1...Also in favor of the inside-job hypothesis are:<br /><br />1) The file package has the form of a response to an FOIA request.<br /><br />2) The hackers would have had to know exactly what to look for to get these exact files -- so assembling them requires deep knowledge of the server.<br /><br />No links, but these points have been mentioned on other forums.Silas Bartahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09480427306873460464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5776375569387669394.post-71371200740711758562009-12-07T11:25:33.050-05:002009-12-07T11:25:33.050-05:00The BBC has a culturally left-liberal bias, a pity...The BBC has a culturally left-liberal bias, a pity because despite being state-funded it produces very good news coverage and excellent entertainment like Doctor Who.<br /><br />As for the CRU emails, looks like the Russian theory is gaining some credence:<br /><br />http://libertarianalliance.wordpress.com/2009/12/06/daily-mail-backs-gabb-russian-climategate-hack-hunch-official/Richardnoreply@blogger.com