tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5776375569387669394.post3841864923124851621..comments2023-10-19T10:43:38.825-04:00Comments on Free Advice: Thoughts on the Austin Plane AttackBob Murphyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04001108408649311528noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5776375569387669394.post-10477795727273956212010-02-21T17:38:42.854-05:002010-02-21T17:38:42.854-05:00You said:
...Is the IRS not going to be able to r...You said:<br /><br />...Is the IRS not going to be able to recruit people? Of course not, it will (if anything) just mean that the IRS has to lower the bar further. <br /><br />Lower the bar??? Did you read about the IRS Agent that was killed?? http://www.statesman.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/austin/blotter/entries/2010/02/20/victims_family_breaks_their_si.html<br /><br />His family, who are Christians, forgave the man who killed their father/husband. <br /><br />Lower the bar????<br /><br />You went on to say:<br /><br />It is foolish to try to fight the government on their terms, using violence. They are professionals; they thrive on it. You will never be as ruthless as the people employed by the government.<br /><br />Wow. I am very disheartened to read that from you. It is obvious that you do not realize that " the people employed by the government" also volunteer in their community, coach kids baseball basketball, soccer teams etc., are involved in their churches, synagogues, mosques, etc. <br /><br />Oops, that's right, I forgot, you said that they were "ruthless".<br /><br />Disappointing.......Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5776375569387669394.post-833699878142420892010-02-19T13:32:40.077-05:002010-02-19T13:32:40.077-05:00""Writes the guy who either can't sp...""Writes the guy who either can't spell his first name, or thinks "anonymous" means pithy.<br /><br />blah blah blah blah"<br /><br />Cool story bro. I wrote my own as well"<br /><br />word yoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5776375569387669394.post-11026373055147699942010-02-19T13:10:40.061-05:002010-02-19T13:10:40.061-05:00"Grammar pedantry and contrived wit is the la..."Grammar pedantry and contrived wit is the last refuge of a bruised teenage ego."<br /><br />I thought you were going to end at The End, but then you just blew my mind with fresh artistic style. These are crazy times folks.<br /><br />A prioriAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5776375569387669394.post-2369066478915282762010-02-19T13:07:30.949-05:002010-02-19T13:07:30.949-05:00"Writes the guy who either can't spell hi..."Writes the guy who either can't spell his first name, or thinks "anonymous" means pithy.<br /><br />blah blah blah blah"<br /><br />Cool story bro. I wrote my own as well.<br /><br />Once upon a time, there was a bruised teenage ego. As a final act of desperation, the BTG retreated behind grammar pedantry and contrived wit for recourse.<br /><br />The End<br /><br />Grammar pedantry and contrived wit is the last refuge of a bruised teenage ego.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5776375569387669394.post-7821967665403751402010-02-19T12:42:44.928-05:002010-02-19T12:42:44.928-05:00"If we cannot convince enough Americans, no a..."If we cannot convince enough Americans, no amount of violent rebellion will work. Violence is neither necessary nor sufficient to restore liberty."<br /><br />If this is true, then what of all that talk about a majority being unnecessary, about only needing an agitated minority setting brush fires of freedom? Tom Paine said that, I believe. <br /><br />Suppose we convince 51% of Americans that liberty > tyranny. Do you really suppose the government will roll over and say, "oops, we see that we are not providing what you really want. We'll be going now." Do really think that real fundamental change will occur so easily, and without conflict? <br /><br />Now, I'm not condoning Stack's actions, especially concerning his family. Suicide is easily one of the most selfish acts a person can undertake, in my opinion. However, under all our preaching of the merits of liberty, and morality of self-defense, is there anything to back it up? <br /><br />Exactly how far must we wait to be pushed before pushing back? I do not believe the powers that be will simply give up and let us go willingly, and I think that eventually there will have to be conflict of some form or another.Patrick Henrynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5776375569387669394.post-17233158095701300462010-02-19T12:01:12.426-05:002010-02-19T12:01:12.426-05:00Anon,
"That is because you and Beck have the ...Anon,<br />"That is because you and Beck have the mental capacity of watermelon."<br /><br />Writes the guy who either can't spell his first name, or thinks "anonymous" means pithy.<br /><br />And have Glenn and I, added together, the intelligence of a single watermelon, or of one (or more!) apiece? - In other words, is it grammar or spelling that gives you the most trouble?<br /><br />Or perhaps you were speaking abstractly - like if I were to say that I don't know much about you, but I'm pretty sure you spell "douchebag" M-E.Codynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5776375569387669394.post-15205364793041669872010-02-19T11:50:27.424-05:002010-02-19T11:50:27.424-05:00"For newcomers, my point is that the right wi..."For newcomers, my point is that the right wing talk show guys will not treat this the same way they treated Muslims flying planes into buildings because they oppose evil actions by the US government."<br /><br />you're nuts if you think this is anything like 9/11.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5776375569387669394.post-28551856282421261082010-02-19T11:48:47.893-05:002010-02-19T11:48:47.893-05:00"It is foolish to try to fight the government..."It is foolish to try to fight the government on their terms, using violence. They are professionals; they thrive on it. You will never be as ruthless as the people employed by the government"<br /><br />this sort of mentality really scares me, it's something only really found in American right wing libertarian conservative circles. it basically says that government is the root of all evil, and obviously it leads to wack jobs flying planes into buildings.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5776375569387669394.post-53148582345562286852010-02-19T11:44:55.161-05:002010-02-19T11:44:55.161-05:00In addition to all the important points made by Dr...In addition to all the important points made by Dr. Murphy, this type of activity sets back getting rid of the IRS which depends entirely upon popular support for its actions.<br /><br />The IRS can operate like it does because juries ALWAYS convict people who don't file or don't want to pay taxes. Until the public can be pursuaded that civilization will not end if the income tax is abolished, the acting out of a murderous lunatic certainly is not going to help matters.Bob Roddisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5776375569387669394.post-81898813661033303152010-02-19T11:37:37.768-05:002010-02-19T11:37:37.768-05:00Dr. Murphy,
I hadn't considered that, so I wi...Dr. Murphy,<br /><br />I hadn't considered that, so I will give you pass for not being quite as gullible as I might be.Yancey Wardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5776375569387669394.post-13755523193948690262010-02-19T11:22:11.460-05:002010-02-19T11:22:11.460-05:00"Beck is the only one I've heard, but he ..."Beck is the only one I've heard, but he directly compared this guy to the 9/11 hijackers and said clearly that it's the same exact thing.<br /><br />Also, if you read the stuff this nut wrote, it seems more anti-market than anti-government."<br /><br />That is because you and Beck have the mental capacity of watermelon.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5776375569387669394.post-48743010345742534492010-02-19T10:58:15.886-05:002010-02-19T10:58:15.886-05:00BTW I didn't mention the stuff about his wife ...BTW I didn't mention the stuff about his wife and kid because the news was still spotty when I wrote this, and because I wouldn't put it past the government to say that in order to instantly discredit the guy. So that's why I didn't bring it up.Bob Murphyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04001108408649311528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5776375569387669394.post-15903990032435635712010-02-19T10:58:12.922-05:002010-02-19T10:58:12.922-05:00"...the right wing talk show guys will not tr..."...the right wing talk show guys will not treat this the same way they treated Muslims flying planes into buildings because they oppose evil actions by the US government."<br /><br />Beck is the only one I've heard, but he directly compared this guy to the 9/11 hijackers and said clearly that it's the same exact thing.<br /><br />Also, if you read the stuff this nut wrote, it seems more anti-market than anti-government. <br /><br />Yes, he clearly hated the IRS, but then guys like Beck and Hannity are pretty clear and frequent on the 'pay all of your taxes, no exceptions' line of things.Codynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5776375569387669394.post-81159684483377290772010-02-19T10:33:28.726-05:002010-02-19T10:33:28.726-05:00The man was a coward and a murderer at heart. He ...The man was a coward and a murderer at heart. He tried to kill his wife and child- that deserved to be mentioned.<br /><br />Premptive violent action cannot be condoned, even if I believe, as he claimed, that the government is slowly but surely becoming an explicit enemy of freedom. The American public is heavily armed, still, and if we choose to change things, it won't require much violence to do so, just a willingness to not cooperate with the government's aims. We should always keep this point in mind.Yancey Wardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5776375569387669394.post-61951474319569985882010-02-19T10:32:27.938-05:002010-02-19T10:32:27.938-05:00Hardcore revolts over diminutive sales tax on tea ...Hardcore revolts over diminutive sales tax on tea and government granted monopolies are symbols of liberty.<br /><br />The guy cracks from 20 years of mounting pressure from draconian behemoth government that put him through hell. He's labeled an unamerican extremist by certain factions.<br /><br />Cognitive dissonance much?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5776375569387669394.post-42647370605342202562010-02-19T10:14:58.059-05:002010-02-19T10:14:58.059-05:00"And for sure they won't recommend that w..."And for sure they won't recommend that we stop letting white people into the country."<br /><br />Bob, instead of making asinine comments like this, why don't you spend some time trying to understand what EMH means (since you frequently mis-characterize it in your various writings, despite being repeatedly corrected over at the mises blog).Beefcake the Mightyhttp://www.redtube.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5776375569387669394.post-45761415749043859392010-02-19T05:36:18.061-05:002010-02-19T05:36:18.061-05:00I don't think the coward that did this deserve...I don't think the coward that did this deserves to be taken at face value.<br /><br />He also locked his wife and daughter in his home and set it on fire. What was he trying to awaken the world from with that?<br /><br />The 'politics' of that note are nothing but the ramblings of a narcissist. A man who could not fail and therefore whose every misfortune must be an injustice and whose cowardly suicide must be an act of martyrdom.Teqzillahttp://www.google.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5776375569387669394.post-1995497913339023862010-02-19T02:10:44.516-05:002010-02-19T02:10:44.516-05:00"Maybe if he read some Murray things would ha..."Maybe if he read some Murray things would have been different."<br /><br />One can only imagine what degree of difference Rothbard's musings on retribution would make...<br /><br />Oh god! The answer will arise when Hoppe decides to become a martyr! Rothbard 2.0 with nuclear machine guns! THE HORROR!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5776375569387669394.post-20344522886225461862010-02-19T01:58:26.658-05:002010-02-19T01:58:26.658-05:00I keep seeing cries of revolution propping up all ...I keep seeing cries of revolution propping up all over the INTERNETZ. Business Insider articles were filled with comment walls of deleted text.<br /><br />Either way,<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rofQjBC92MA" rel="nofollow">this insightful video deserves a link.</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5776375569387669394.post-70271365532307690862010-02-19T00:52:58.551-05:002010-02-19T00:52:58.551-05:00Almost all of this guys complaints seem legitimate...Almost all of this guys complaints seem legitimate. Especially the part about how the middle class and poor bailed out the banks.<br /><br />I read the full 6 page letter and it seemed that he was a normal guy who truly wanted to believe that the government still existed to serve the people. After 30 years he just couldn't take it anymore. I would challenge any libertarian to tell me that they haven't felt the same.<br /><br />I do not agree with what he did, the employees at the IRS although they maybe quislings, certainly are not in any authority position and are innocent.<br /><br />Maybe if he read some Murray things would have been different.Roger Asnenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11787521446165364198noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5776375569387669394.post-44922239463397685712010-02-19T00:40:43.670-05:002010-02-19T00:40:43.670-05:00Anon, I understand why he was frustrated; I just s...Anon, I understand why he was frustrated; I just spent a year paying a big number per month working off back taxes. When you get in a hole it is difficult to get out, because you owe more when you earn money to pay down your IRS debt. I get that, and of course I know that what they do with the taxes is itself awful.<br /><br />There are people who are writing much more eloquent and persuasive complaints against the government. That is part of my point. This guy decided he wanted people to hear about his particular misfortune, and so the way he got attention wasn't to write something profound, or to come up with a hilarious YouTube hook and then read his message after the joke, etc. etc. No, he flew his plane into a building and gave the government and its allies a wonderful trump card.Bob Murphyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04001108408649311528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5776375569387669394.post-23215988937534266542010-02-19T00:07:02.183-05:002010-02-19T00:07:02.183-05:00He knew he couldn't fight the government.
His...He knew he couldn't fight the government.<br /><br />His contribution to body count might have accomplished his goal of dying for freedom, since he persuaded people to read and syndicate his rant. <br /><br />He misspelled a word, but much of his frustration may resonate with people. Time will tell.<br /><br />--Best wishes from Redbud in KansasAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com