Wednesday, September 2, 2009


Glenn Beck on Van Jones

In case some of you can't figure out why so many people like Glenn Beck, here's probably the best sample you'll ever get of his show. He goes through and parses remarks that "green jobs czar" Van Jones made back in February, and then at the end plays a clip of Obama saying we need a new domestic security force as strong and as well-funded as the military. And through it all, Beck doesn't sound like Alex Jones, but instead asks his sidekicks and the audience, "Where am I going wrong here? What am I missing? How is this not evidence of a Marxist takeover of the government?"

Now if you click through the link above, it will take you to a transcript of the segment, but you can also click the audio link which you will need to do, in order to appreciate the Van Jones clips.

In response to a lady asking him if his policies are Marxist (and I couldn't tell if she meant the question sincerely, or was merely giving him a softball to defuse, the way someone might ask Obama, "Is it true you want to kill old people?"), Van Jones said:
How is that capitalism working for you? How is that capitalism working for you? How is that capitalism working for you this year?
Yes, that's right, he said that three times in a row. (In fairness, since they were just playing snippets I don't know if he prefaced that by saying, "No it's not Marxism I'm advocating.")

Also, at the end of the Q&A, Van Jones said: "In this stage of the struggle, and I'll only speak to this stage of the struggle, I'm the best friend capitalism ever had. Thank you very much." (Note: He might have said "the capitalists ever had," I'm not sure and don't want to go find it again. And the transcriber for Beck's show missed a few other words I noticed, so I don't want to rely on him/her.) So that's a little bit creepy, isn't it? (If you're not a Marxist, I mean.)

At another point Van Jones said:

And this won't ‑‑ we have to prepare for this to be a long process even though it probably won't be. We have to prepare ourselves. We can't just push the people. We can push the corporations and the politicians, but the people ‑‑ it must be a dance, you know. We have to listen, listen, listen, listen. And then learn. And then co‑lead, try to coauthor a different future with folks. And we have to assume that's going to take a long time, but sometimes what should have taken another 20 years, Barack Hussein Obama [applause], can take a season.
Now look, let's take a deep breath here. Just because one particular "czar" in the administration is a self-described communist (and I don't know if he ever renounced that--here Grist "refutes" the notion by pointing out that Van Jones is currently in charge of government creation of jobs), that doesn't mean the President of the United States is a communist. I'm trying not to overreact here. For example, suppose Ron Paul had pulled off the impossible and won the election. Presumably he would have sought input from people associated with the Mises Institute, perhaps even putting them on his payroll in some official capacity. Then his opponents would go nuts, saying that the far-right Paul was being given tax advice from self-described anarchists who thought the military and courts should be privatized. In response to the outcry, Paul would truthfully say, "Hey, I'm not an anarchist. The voters know my views; I expressed them on the campaign trail and they put me here in office. Even though I don't share all the views of [Rothbardian Economist X], he's a good economist and is helping to ensure that our efforts to scale back the bloated welfare-warfare state go as smoothly as possible."

So anyway, this is what it is. But if you've never really listened to Glenn Beck and are curious to see what the buzz is, I think the clip (and you really have to listen to the audio to appreciate it) linked above is a great sample.

Have you read Obama's memoir?

We know from his memoir that Obama sought out Marxist professors at Occidental, he spent his spare time at Columbia attending socialist conferences, his friend and socio-political mentor in high school was the Communist poet Frank Marshall Davis, he considered working as editor at a financial analysis firm in New York as "working behind enemy lines", he took tapes of Rev. Wright's Marxist-inspired "black liberation theology" sermons with him to Harvard, and he was a fan of the writing of Du Bois and Fanon (google these guys if you don't know them.) And we know that Obama idealized his socialist economist dad -- and derived his political dreams and ambitions from what his mother told him about his father.

The Chicago Tribune, the Chicago Sun-Times have also told us how the women who raised him -- his mother and grandmother -- attended the "Little Red Church" on the hill in Mercer Island, WA, a left wing Uniterian church, they'd told us how Obama for several years shared a very small two story office building with the radical bomber and radical education activist Bill Ayers -- with whom Obama worked via the Chicago Annenberg project, we know that Obama sought out Marx based "Critical Legal Studies" and "Critical Race Theory" professors at Harvard Law, and we know that Obama put on talks on education reform with the hard left education radical Bill Ayers; and we know that Obama worked wrote an essay on the organizational principles of 60s radical Saul Alinsky -- and famously worked for a for a Saul Alinsky organization.

So are we supposed to be surprised that Obama is bringing in folks like Van Jones into the White House to make U.S. domestic policy?

I'm shocked, shocked, that Obama would want such a guy in the White House helping to bring change to America.
I'll address Beck more so than Obama because I truly don't think that there's much debate that the man is pursuing a socialist agenda. My only beef with him is that he claims not to be in the mainstream media (not so much if you read his memoirs / writings as Greg pointed out).

Beck, on the other hand, is someone that I can mostly get behind. I don't know that he and I agree about border control (he's a build-a-big-fence kinda guy, while I'd rather just stop giving services away for free and welcome in the increased labor supply). But what he's done for advancing the ideas of capitalism to joe couch potato is fantastic.

He even had a segment a week or so ago about the Fed monetizing the debt through their open market operations. Note that this showed up on his show only a day or two after some posts about it by zerohedge and some other pro-capitalist websites.

The left, as Beck often points out, choose to ridicule him rather than the facts, because, well, it's hard to change the facts especially in the age of youtube.

I didn't read it, but I listened to _Dreams of My Father_ on audio during a road trip one time.

Yes I knew of just about everything you cited. But look, pretend for a moment that Ron Paul were president. You would be able to concoct a similar string of facts about him: His chief of staff was extreme anti-government radical Lew Rockwell, who did XYZ in his career; RP wrote all these shocking things in his newsletter going back as far as 19xx; RP took economic advice from one Walter Block, a completely insane nutjob who has openly advocated "Nuremberg trials" for all government officials, with some receiving the death penalty. Hey, we're not making this stuff up; just go to the online videos hosted by and check out how they are indoctrinating America's youth to rise up and overthrow the government. These people are freaking crazy!!!

So you see what I mean? And if RP had won, it wouldn't be true that there had been an "an-cap takeover of the government."

So all I'm saying is that I'm trying to keep perspective.
Other than his support for drug laws, the patriot act, murdering brown people, some bailouts, the Republican police-state, and the fact that he cries a whole lot... I think Beck's alright.
Bob, sorry, but I`m not at all impressed. Beck has an enormous blindspot for the ways that Bush and Republicans have also acted as socialists and paved the way for Obama, but now all of a sudden he`s got 20/20 vision?

The green jobs program IS of course a load of nonsense, but whatever Alex Jones is - and I`m curious to know more- he`s just and advisor; he doesn`t make or pass any laws.

Paul was widely condemned for the racially bigoted stuff that ran under his name in his newsletter -- and most especially by libertarians and classic liberals.

In the Rebublican party Paul is not a mainstream figure -- most especially among the staff and opinion maker types.

And note well. With Obama were talking about who the guy is and what his life has been. It not just about one or two "outthere" former associates.

And when did a Paul associate ever kill anybody -- or advocate policies that lead to tyranny and worse?

I get your point -- but I see it as showing how in our current culture far less damning facts about Paul permanently marginalized and damage the guy -- and far worse facts about Obama have -- until Beck & Malkin -- not touched the guy.
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